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Thanks for the comment Nikhs. I doubt that record was built “mostly on the risk adjustment optimization”. That $8B estimate for 2021 “seem” a bit too much to me, but I am not an expert in this field. It could be that we are witnessing permanent business model disruptions, but I doubt it. The whole industry is reporting higher medical costs, not just UNH. Are we to presume all of them were doing “regulatory arbitrage”? I doubt it. Regarding Buffett’s thinking, we can’t be sure until he gives a comment publicly, maybe it wasn’t even him who bought it.

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Great analysis, Ray. However, if UNH's 30-year track record was built on risk adjustment optimization (not genuine operational excellence), and those opportunities are being systematically eliminated by V28 changes and DOJ scrutiny, how realistic is a return to 6% margins? Also, given Buffett's recent pattern of quick entries/exits (Ulta, airlines, various tech stocks) plus his big misses (IBM, Occidental), and this being only a $1.6B position for a $500B+ company, shouldn't we view this as potentially just another short-term trade rather than a long-term conviction signal? The margin compression across the entire managed care sector suggests regulatory arbitrage opportunities are disappearing industry-wide - what makes you confident this isn't permanent business model disruption disguised as temporary headwinds, especially when even Buffett might flip this position in a quarter or two?" Citrini also, spoke about these issues in a recent podcast.

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